Dr. Phyllis Zagano wouldn’t use the term “female deacons”; proceeds from “her fact that women were ordained to the office of deacon”, and hopes that after the study, the Holy Father will decide to restore women to the ordained diaconate

Susy Hodges Vatican Radio (L). Dr. Phyllis Zagano (R)
Susy Hodges, Vatican Radio (L). Dr. Phyllis Zagano (R)

Interview with Dr. Phyllis Zagano, member of the Commission set up by Pope Francis to study the question of the Diaconate for women

Transcription by THE WAR using otranscribe.com

Dr. Phyllis Zagano, a Member of Diaconate for Women Commission reacts to move | Vatican Radio

This is Vatican Radio and I am Susy Hodges

A member of the newly established commission set up by Pope Francis to study the question of the diaconate for women spoke of her delight over this move on Tuesday. Dr. Phyllis Zagano, who teaches at Hofstra University in Hampstead, New York, is one of the six female members of the Commission whose formation was announced by the Vatican on Tuesday. She is the author of some 20 books on religious studies including several on the issue of the Diaconate for women. Dr. Zagano spoke to me earlier about her reaction to her appointment and explained why she feels it is such an important and positive move on the part of the Pope.

Dr. Zagano: Well you know I am honored that the Holy Father has included me among scholars who will be studying anew the question of restoring women to the diaconate in the Catholic Churches. I am very honored. That’s the best news I have ever gotten really.

Susy: Why do you feel that this could be a positive move for the Church and for women of course?

Dr. Zagano: My work is on the fact that women were ordained to the diaconate, that women have served as deacons and in more recent work I say quite simply that women should be included in the diaconate as it has been restored post-Vatican II.

Susy: And how optimistic are you that this commission will eventually in due course lead possibly to that decision to have female deacons within the Catholic Church?

Dr. Zagano: I wouldn’t use the term female deacons. I think the most recent study document on the question of restoring women to the diaconate, to the office of deacon, states that the decision is up to the “ministry of discernment that the LORD has left his Church”. Now my hope is that the results of the study will include women in the office of deacon and that this would be a decision that would enable the Church to speak more forcefully to the world about the dignity and place of women, not only in the Church but also in society.

Susy: But could it be also quite a divisive move that there could be people who are very much opposed to this within the Church? Could it open up splits?

Dr. Zagano: Well anything could open up splits. I think that the way Church works is the Holy Father decides to restore women to the ordained diaconate. It would be up to each Episcopal conference to decide whether it felt that it should include women in the office of deacon and in its provincial territories; and then within those territories, it would be up to each individual bishop to decide whether he would wish to ordain women as deacons. So I can’t see any kind of a split since it is a collaborative decision that goes down the line really to the individual diocese.

Susy: Coming back to the present day, do you think nonetheless it’s, I know it is very early, but do think this is likely to be a popular move?

Dr. Zagano: I think it is extremely, from what I have heard recently, it is an extremely popular idea to restore women to the ordained office of deacon because historically women ministered to other women and it would be a statement by the Church that women deserve the ordained ministry of women. That was the specific reason for ordaining women in the past and it quite clearly I think is the reason to restore women to the ordained diaconate today.

Susy: I was speaking there to Dr. Phyllis Zagano, member of the commission set up by Pope Francis to study the question of the diaconate for women.


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Further Reading

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The Innovators pretend to go to “the early days of the Church” when it suits them

What is it going to be?:

“the early days of the Church” e.g. “However, the Church reaffirms her practice, which is based upon Sacred Scripture, of not admitting to Eucharistic Communion divorced persons who have remarried.” [Cf. Familiaris Consortio, 84]

OR

“not to preserve everything as it has been of old.”


Kasper speaks about the further Church-reform plans of Pope Francis and his intention “not to preserve everything as it has been of old.” – Kasper: Pope Intends “Not to Preserve Everything as it has Been”, by Dr. Maike Hickson, April 23, 2016 | 1P5

VS.

Italian/Google Translate English (THE WAR welcomes a better translation)

Istituzione della Commissione di Studio sul Diaconato delle donne, 02.08.2016 Establishment of the Study Committee on the Diaconate of women, 02.08.2016
Il 12 maggio 2016 il Santo Padre, nel corso dell’incontro – svolto in forma di dialogo nell’Aula Paolo VI – con le partecipanti all’Assemblea Plenaria delle Superiore Generali, ha espresso l’intenzione di “costituire una commissione ufficiale che possa studiare la questione” del Diaconato delle donne, “soprattutto riguardo ai primi tempi della Chiesa”. The May 12, 2016 the Holy Father, during the meeting – held in the form of dialogue Aula Paolo VI – with the Plenary Assembly of Superiors General, has expressed its intention to “establish an official committee that can study the question “of the Diaconate of women,” especially with regard to the early days of the Church”.
Dopo intensa preghiera e matura riflessione, Sua Santità ha deciso di istituire la Commissione di Studio sul Diaconato delle donne, chiamando a farne parte i seguenti: After intense prayer and mature reflection, His Holiness has decided to set up the Commission to Study the diaconate of women, calling upon the following:
[…] […]

(My emphasis)


“especially with regard to the first ages of the Church.” – Pope institutes commission to study the diaconate of women | Vatican Radio


Cf. From the Diakonia of Christ to the Diakonia of the Apostles* | INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION | vatican.va


Cf. Catholic Encyclopedia > D > Deaconesses


VI. WHO CAN RECEIVE THIS SACRAMENT?

CCC 1577 “Only a baptized man (vir) validly receives sacred ordination.”66 The Lord Jesus chose men (viri) to form the college of the twelve apostles, and the apostles did the same when they chose collaborators to succeed them in their ministry.67 The college of bishops, with whom the priests are united in the priesthood, makes the college of the twelve an ever-present and ever-active reality until Christ’s return. The Church recognizes herself to be bound by this choice made by the Lord himself. For this reason the ordination of women is not possible.68

66 CIC, can. 1024.
67 Cf. Mk 3:14-19; Lk 6:12-16; 1 Tim 3:1-13; 2 Tim 1:6; Titus 1:5-9; St. Clement of Rome, Ad Cor. 42,4; 44,3:PG 1,292-293; 300.
68 Cf. John Paul II, MD 26-27; CDF, declaration, Inter insigniores: AAS 69 (1977) 98-116.


4. Although the teaching that priestly ordination is to be reserved to men alone has been preserved by the constant and universal Tradition of the Church and firmly taught by the Magisterium in its more recent documents, at the present time in some places it is nonetheless considered still open to debate, or the Church’s judgment that women are not to be admitted to ordination is considered to have a merely disciplinary force.

Wherefore, in order that all doubt may be removed regarding a matter of great importance, a matter which pertains to the Church’s divine constitution itself, in virtue of my ministry of confirming the brethren (cf. Lk 22:32) I declare that the Church has no authority whatsoever to confer priestly ordination on women and that this judgment is to be definitively held by all the Church’s faithful.Ordinatio Sacerdotalis (May 22, 1994) | Pope St. John Paul II

(My emphasis)


Cf. Dr. Phyllis Zagano wouldn’t use the term “female deacons”; proceeds from “her fact that women were ordained to the office of deacon”, and hopes that after the study, the Holy Father will decide to restore women to the ordained diaconate