The Vatican Preferred Clinton over Trump? 😕

VA with her?
VA with her?

However, Corriere della Sera reported Nov. 10 that, according to its research, most in the Vatican were backing Hillary Clinton as the “lesser evil.” Trump, on the other hand, was considered “unelectable” due to his “aggressive chauvinism,” in addition to his threats to deport 11 million illegal Mexican immigrants and ban Muslims from immigrating to the United States.

Now that the “greater evil” has won, the Vatican is viewing the United States as “angry and radicalized,” Corriere della Sera wrote. “For the Holy See, it is a bitter defeat, cultural rather than political. Among other things, it indicates that the Catholic Church hadn’t registered the very deep upheavals taking place in the greatest Western country.”

A “lot of incomprehension” and “bitter shock” were generally prevalent for many in the Vatican, agreed one U.S. official who spoke with the Register. Based on “failings of reporting,” he said, Clinton was represented as far preferable to Trump, who was portrayed as a “buffoon,” and reporting about Clinton’s shortcomings “never sunk in.” Due to a general lack of understanding of the U.S. “culture wars” in Italy, Clinton’s radical pro-abortion-rights position also hardly figured at all in media commentary. (My emphasis)
– VATICAN | NOV. 15, 2016 How the Vatican Views Trump’s Presidential Victory – Views are mixed, ranging from ‘incomprehension’ and ‘shock’ to optimism that a Republican presidency opens new possibilities for cooperation. by Edward Pentin | NCR

Edward Pentin’s translation of

Esplora il significato del termine: Il Vaticano aveva scelto la strategia del «male minore». E alla fine sembrava così rassegnato alla vittoria di Hillary Rodham Clinton da pensare a lei come alla candidata meno sgradita: sebbene forse non ci credesse fino in fondo. Donald Trump era considerato «non votabile» per le rivelazioni sul suo maschilismo aggressivo, che si aggiungevano alle minacce di deportare oltre il confine sud undici milioni di messicani, di impedire l’entrata negli Usa agli islamici: cose ormai archiviate. E invece, il presunto «male maggiore» Trump è emerso a furor di popolo come nuovo inquilino della Casa Bianca, a conferma di un’America arrabbiata e radicalizzata. E per la Santa Sede si tratta di una sconfitta bruciante: culturale prima che politica. Tra l’altro, è il segno che la Chiesa cattolica non aveva captato i sommovimenti più profondi in atto nel maggiore Paese occidentale.Il Vaticano aveva scelto la strategia del «male minore». E alla fine sembrava così rassegnato alla vittoria di Hillary Rodham Clinton da pensare a lei come alla candidata meno sgradita: sebbene forse non ci credesse fino in fondo. Donald Trump era considerato «non votabile» per le rivelazioni sul suo maschilismo aggressivo, che si aggiungevano alle minacce di deportare oltre il confine sud undici milioni di messicani, di impedire l’entrata negli Usa agli islamici: cose ormai archiviate. E invece, il presunto «male maggiore» Trump è emerso a furor di popolo come nuovo inquilino della Casa Bianca, a conferma di un’America arrabbiata e radicalizzata. E per la Santa Sede si tratta di una sconfitta bruciante: culturale prima che politica. Tra l’altro, è il segno che la Chiesa cattolica non aveva captato i sommovimenti più profondi in atto nel maggiore Paese occidentale.
– LA CHIESA Elezioni Usa e Vaticano, i cardinali che tifano per Trump – Si tratta di settori minoritari che però adesso si sentono rafforzati. Capofila è il cardinale Raymond Leo Burke, critico coriaceo delle aperture di Bergoglio


Cf. November 16, 2016 Trump, a shocked Vatican, and ‘papal’ climate change by Matt C. Abbott | American Thinker

Papal Response to the Four Brave Cardinals via Twitter?

Will the like of these:

Cf. Amoris – PAPA.pdf

Pope Francis associate: Controversial questions on communion already answered By Fr. Antonio Spadaro Updated 2236 GMT (0636 HKT) November 28, 2016 | CNN

Pope Francis explains how to put up with annoying people, 2016-11-16 | ROME REPORTS

Pope to Avvenire: Jubilee and ecumenism fruits of Vatican II | Radio Vaticana (EN)

L’intervista integrale. Papa Francesco: non svendo la dottrina, seguo il Concilio Stefania Falasca giovedì 17 novembre 2016 | Avvenire

Pope Grants Interview to Italian Catholic Daily ‘Avvenire’ In a Long Interview with Stefania Falasca, Francis Evaluates the Jubilee and Explains Why Christian Unity Is Necessary in a World Lacerated by Conflicts NOVEMBER 18, 2016 SALVATORE CERNUZIO

Prominent Italian philosopher explains his response to doubts surrounding the Amoris Laetitia | VATICAN INSIDER La Stampa

An Open Letter to the Four Cardinals – Bishop Franghískos Papamanólis, O.F.M. Cap., Bishop Emeritus of Syros (e Milos)

WATCH: Cardinal Cupich: Anyone who ‘doubts and questions’ Amoris needs ‘conversion’ | LifeSiteNews

The Pope Isn’t Talking, But His Cardinal Friends Are. And Accusing by Sandro Magister | WWW.CHIESA – The prefect of the new dicastery for the family attacks the archbishop of Philadelphia, Charles J. Chaput, over how he is implementing “Amoris Laetitia” in his diocese. Here are the guidelines that have come under accusation

Dean of Rota warns Pope could strip Card. Burke & others of cardinalate, NOV 29TH 2016, BY DEACON NICK DONNELLY | EWTN News | St. Clare Media (EWTN) | The EWTN Foundation in Great Britain

be the entire extent of the papal response to:
The Brave 4 (L - R): Carlo Cardinal Caffarra, Archbishop Emeritus of Bologna, Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, Prefect Emeritus of the Apostolic Signatura, Walter Cardinal Brandmüller, President Emeritus of the Roman Curia – Other, and Joachim Cardinal Meisner, Archbishop Emeritus of Köln {Cologne}
The Brave 4 (L – R): Carlo Cardinal Caffarra, Archbishop Emeritus of Bologna, Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, Prefect Emeritus of the Apostolic Signatura, Walter Cardinal Brandmüller, President Emeritus of the Roman Curia – Other, and Joachim Cardinal Meisner, Archbishop Emeritus of Köln {Cologne}
Exclusive Interview: Cardinal Burke Explains Plea to Pope for Clarity, November 14, 2016 | Catholic Action for Faith and Family

and

VATICAN | NOV. 13, 2016 Four Cardinals Formally Ask Pope for Clarity on Amoris Laetitia – The senior Church leaders have referenced the controversial aspects of the Holy Father’s apostolic exhortation, relating to reception of Communion. | Edward Pentin | NCR and “Seeking Clarity.” The Appeal of Four Cardinals To the Pope by Sandro Magister | WWW.CHIESA – One letter. Five questions on the most controversial points of “Amoris Laetitia.” To which Francis has not replied. One more reason, they say, to “inform the people of God about our initiative” and VATICAN | NOV. 15, 2016 Cardinal Burke on Amoris Laetitia Dubia: ‘Tremendous Division’ Warrants Action – In an exclusive Register interview, he elaborates about why four cardinals were impelled to seek clarity about the papal exhortation’s controversial elements. | Edward Pentin | NCR?


#AmorisLaetitia Card Burke: “Formal calls for clarification are in process and they simply will demand a response.”

Pro Domine et Ecclesia et Pontifice contra #AmorisLaetitia; Petitions: To the Pope; To all Catholic Cardinals; To all Catholic Bishops

Libellus of Condemned Errors regarding ‘#AmorisLaetitia’

This is excellent, brilliant, amazing, and at the service of Truth. Well done Members and Friends of Veri Catholici and God bless and yours, and may He crown this work!

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Christ the King

Libellus of Condemnation of the Errors Contained in, presupposed by, or underlying the document ‘Amoris Laetitia’

Mindful of the teaching of Our Most High Lord, Jesus Christ, that our “Yes”, be a “yes” and our “No”, a “no”, and, similarly mindful of the teaching of His Vicar on Earth, Pope Pius VI, of good memory, who taught:

“Whenever it becomes necessary to expose statements which disguise some suspected error or danger, under the veil of ambiguity, one must denounce the perverse meaning under which the error opposed to Catholic Truth is camouflaged”

We the members of Veri Catholici wish to express our loyalty to the faith which we have received from the lips of Christ through the preaching of the Apostles, as handed down in the Catholic Church and fortified by the infallible Magisterium of the Church, in condemning the so called Apostolic Exhortation, “Amoris Laetitia” as a work of…

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Concluding Excerpt from “Sulla #AmorisLaetitia di Papa Francesco: gioie, domande, tristezze di Josef Seifert”

Come possono Gesù e la sua Madre santissima leggere e paragonare queste parole del Papa con quelle di Gesù e della sua Chiesa senza piangere? Como può lo stesso Papa Francesco paragonarle senza piangere? Piangiamo dunque con Gesù, con profondo rispetto e affetto per il Papa, e con il dolore profondo che nasce dall’obbligo di criticare i suoi errori! E preghiamo affinché il Papa stesso o un Santo Concilio revochino queste false dottrine contrarie alle sante parole di Cristo, che mai moriranno, e alle sante dottrine della Chiesa!

Non è possibile, come propongono alcuni eccellenti cardinali e laici (come Rocco Buttiglione), leggere queste poche ma pregnanti parole della Amoris Laetitiaconsiderandole in armonia con le parole di Cristo o con le dottrine della Chiesa!

Qualcuno potrebbe chiedermi come io, misero laico, possa criticare un Papa. Rispondo: il Papa non è infallibile se non parla ex cathedra. Vari Papi (come Formoso e Onorio I) furono condannati per eresia. Ed è nostro santo dovere – per amore e per misericordia per tante anime – criticare i nostri vescovi e persino il nostro caro Papa, se essi deviano dalla verità e se i loro errori danneggiano la Chiesa e le anime. Quest’obbligo fu riconosciuto nella Chiesa fin dall’inizio.

San Paolo resistette al primo Papa, san Pietro, con dure ed energiche parole, quando egli, nella sua decisione pratica, deviava dalla verità e dalla volontà di Dio. Sant’Atanasio resistette a Papa Liberio che firmò una dichiarazione che conteneva l’eresia ariana o semi-ariana, che negava la vera divinità di Gesù Cristo. Questo Papa, davanti alla critica di sant’Atanasio, scomunicò sant’Atanasio ingiustamente, commettendo un errore contro il quale vi furono laici che levarono le loro voci e che fu corretto in seguito. E oggi la Chiesa, che deve in parte a questo Santo la preservazione della sua fede, celebra la sua festa in tutto il mondo.

Alcuni laici resistettero a Papa Onorio che fu poi condannato per eresia per essersi dichiarato a favore della eresia monotelita (che negò le due nature e le due corrispondenti volontà umane e divine della medesima persona Gesù Cristo). Laici protestarono contro l’eresia di Papa Giovanni XXII sulla visione beatifica, un’eresia che Giovanni XXII stesso revocò un giorno prima della sua morte con la bolla Ne super his e che fu condannata nella bolla Benedictus Deus dal suo successore Benedetto XII.

Seguiamo allora, senza paura, tali sublimi esempi di amore per la verità e per la Chiesa e non acconsentiamo mai se vediamo che Pietro è caduto in un errore. Papa Francesco stesso ci esortava a fare esattamente questo e a criticarlo invece di mentire al mondo cattolico o di adularlo. Prendiamo a cuore le sue parole, ma facciamolo umilmente e solo per amore di Gesù e della sua Santa Chiesa, per asciugare le lacrime di Gesù e per glorificare Dio in veritate.

In conclusione: se non è possibile, come non lo è, interpretare le affermazioni dell’AL, quelle menzionate e altre, in continuità con il magistero sempiterno della Chiesa, dobbiamo chiedere umilmente, ma con forza, e in modo deciso al Santo Padre che egli stesso revochi questi errori gravi o, almeno, corregga queste frasi che quasi nessun lettore dell’AL può intendere come conseguenze delle Sacre Scritture, ma che tutti (compreso le Conferenze episcopali come quella delle Filippine) interpreteranno inevitabilmente, più o meno subito, con un significato errato che nessun Papa deve affermare essere la verità. Come il Papa stesso, e non cattivi giornalisti o interpreti dell’AL, ha detto queste e altre cose false, credo che spetti al Papa sostituirle con la verità, affinché la parola della Santa Eucaristia e della Costituzione dogmatica Lumen Gentium si verifichi in modo glorioso e che la Chiesa si mostri a tutti come epifania e “ferma colonna della verità” e come forno di fuoco di un amore e di una misericordia infinita, ma in veritate.

(Source: Corrispondenza romana Sulla Amoris laetitia di Papa Francesco: gioie, domande, tristezze di Josef Seifert, 08 giugno 2016)

#AmorisLaetitia: My Papa Offers Me A Mistress

From the unchanging Sacred Deposit of Faith [= Sacred Scripture + Holy Tradition], religious infidelity/idolatry is called immorality/fornication/adultery. The unchanging Sacred Deposit of Faith like God its Revealer does not change. When Israel committed idolatry [= playing the whore with demons/devils], even though they exchanged God, they did not change him.

Now a story about me and the wife of my youth:

I married the wife of my youth. She is pure, very beautiful, the mother of my children. She has been my companion and it has been wonderful together. She has been Mother showering me with such tender loving care.

At 11:30 AM on Friday, April 8, 2016 in Rome, a day which will live in infamy, my papa offered me a mistress saying I do not have to change my wife. My wife is still my wife, she does not, and she won’t change. Some of my uncles and aunties, some of my friends, and even some of my own brothers and sisters are telling me that the offer conditions by my papa are excellent and make it fine since my wife is not changing. To them, a tantalizingly very good offer not to be refused, they are envious. Oh, one more thing, the mistress is not attractive all! She is nothing compared to my wife, and can’t hold a candle to her, not even remotely, … and, she has been around the block … [doctrine of demons]

In Coena Domini Mass 2016.03.24, Pope Francis: “Do as I say, not as I do!”

The Teacher and LORD: “I have given you an example, that you also should do as I have done to you.” – Jn 13:15 (RSVCE)

His Vicar: “Do as I say, not as I do!”


Do as I say:

The Pope decrees that not only men may be chosen for the washing of the feet in the Liturgy of Holy Thursday, Vatican City, Thursday, 21 January 2016 (VIS)

Not as I do!:

The Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said the Vatican norms are meant for traditional liturgies in Catholic communities, not necessarily a unique papal Mass where the overall message is one of universal brotherhood and the love of God for all his children.

“We must always take the pastoral context into account,” Lombardi said in an email. “Norms that are appropriate for a parish celebration aren’t to be considered binding on a very unique celebration of the pope in a refugee center with a non-Christian majority.” – Pope Washes Feet of Muslim Migrants, Says ‘We Are […] by LUIGI NAVARRO AND NICOLE WINFIELD, ASSOCIATED PRESS, CASTELNUOVO DI PORTO, Italy — Mar 24, 2016, 5:16 PM ET

… on the very day his supposed Teacher and LORD, whose Vicar he is, who having loved his own who were in the world and loving them to the end said to them:

If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. For I have given you an example, that you also should do as I have done to you.Jn 13:14-15 (RSVCE)


Who does the pope love, who are his own in the world?

Related: #CardinalBergoglio washes the feet of an unidentified woman on Holy Thursday at the Buenos Aires’ Sarda maternity hospital on March 24, 2005.

“Papal Response” to ChurchMilitant.com’s ‘Public Criticism of the Pope’

Opening

What does the Church Teach?

Q. May lay people manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church, and also make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful?

A. According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church 907:

“In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence which they possess, [lay people] have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters which pertain to the good of the Church, and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful, with due regard to the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons.” – [CIC, can. 212 § 3.]

Thus according to the Code of Canon Law this right and even at times duty is an obligation and right belonging to all the Christian Faithful and from the Catechism of the Catholic Church it also what comes with participation in Christ’s prophetic office.


“Papal Response” to ChurchMilitant.com’s ‘Public Criticism of the Pope’

 Q. How has the Pope responded to public criticism?

A1. When Pope Francis called Mario Palmaro, who had criticized him, the late writer recounted that Pope Francis had during the call responded by saying that he 

“understood that the critics had been moved by love for the Pope.”

A2. Recently in the letter Pope Francis sent to Antonio Socci after receiving the latter’s book, the Pope wrote:

In reality, also criticism helps us to walk on the righteous path of the Lord.

In their article “The Pope Himself Says: Your Criticism is Good for Me” – And What will the Post-Synod Document Say? RORATE CÆLI provides a translated commentary by Roberto de Mattei on the pope’s words:

These few lines demolish a certain “papalotry” widespread in conservative circles. The Pontiff states that criticizing the Pope is not only licit but can “be very good” for the Pope himself, by helping him to “walk on the righteous path of the Lord”. With the term papolatry, we mean undue divinization of the Pope’s figure, which is very different from the veneration and devout respect we owe him for the office he holds. Frankness, also in criticizing, notes Socci, may be of help to the Bishop of Rome, “particularly when the prevailing mentality exaggerates with adulation” (p.92). The great Dominican theologian Melchoir Cano states: “Peter has no need of our lies or adulation. Those who blindly, indiscriminately defend every decision by the Supreme Pontiff are those who undermine most the authority of the Holy See: instead of reinforcing its foundations, they destroy them”.

Concluding, I see ChurchMilitant.com’s mistaken position on ‘Public Criticism of the Pope’ as shirking from their right and obligation as indicated by Church teaching,  a failure to participate in Christ’s prophetic office, and a missed opportunity to do something for Pope Francis that according to the pope himself, may help him.